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Citation (Dirty @ 16/02/2012 00:47) *
Mayock a sorti ses deuxièmes rankings.

Il pense que
- Tannehill sera un 1er tour
- Jeffery & Burfict n'en seront pas

Il a recouvert ses moyens en bumpant Kalil devant Reiff à la 1ere place des OTs.
Il a Spence LB#5 wub.gif et Burfict même pas dans son top 5.
Mais toujours Miller RB#3 derrière Richardson & David Wilson. sad.gif

Vu les commentaires sur David Wilson, je comprends pas trop (grosses perfs contre les petites équipes et invisible contre les 3 plus grosses rencontrées dans la saison, pas mal de fumbles)... Il y a Doug Martin (qu'il place en 4) qui commence à faire pas mal de bruit depuis un petit bout de temps. J'ai regardé des vidéos d'un match ou deux de lui, et je l'ai trouvé pas mal du tout.

Pour Jeffery, je suis pas étonné, les mecs attendent beaucoup du combine pour juger sa vitesse au 40yds. Ils viennent de se rendre compte qu'il était plutôt "gros" et qu'il avait du mal à créer de l'espace. Dans chaque nouvelle mock que je vois, il est de plus en plus bas.

J'espère qu'on fera pas la connerie de prendre Tannehill au premier tour, ça me parait vraiment risqué pour un QB qui a joué une 15aine de fois seulement en NCAA. J'ai lu que les Redskins seraient intéressés par lui. De toute façon, on semble se diriger sur un Coples ou Upshaw pour améliorer le front seven.
Dirty


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CL
Nouvelle mock draft de Kiper :

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Indianapolis Colts
Record: 2-14

* Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford While the public relations drama continues between Jim Irsay and Peyton Manning, there's little drama surrounding whom the Colts will take with the No. 1 pick. I doubt Luck throws next week at the NFL combine, but his status among evaluators really isn't in question. Arm talent, strength, size, smarts, leadership, intangibles -- it's all there. The only question is whether he'll be serving an apprenticeship under Manning, but my guess right now would be that he won't have to.




St. Louis Rams
Record: 2-14

* Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St. I've said before this pick could be in play. Cleveland, Washington or maybe even Miami could slide into this spot if they want to make a move at quarterback, but Blackmon goes here in this mock because I'm not able to reflect trades. It will be interesting to see if Blackmon is willing to run in Indy. He could bypass it and wait for his pro day given his current status. St. Louis is in desperate need of a weapon in the passing game, and will get one with one of its first two picks. Remember, it could also lose Brandon Lloyd in free agency.




Minnesota Vikings
Record: 3-13

* Matt Kalil, OT, USC The Vikings need to upgrade at left tackle, and Kalil is the rare one who could step into that position right away at the NFL level. Great feet, arm length, athleticism and finishing skills as a run-blocker make him a very complete prospect. I can see the Vikings tempted if Blackmon is around here, which he very well could be, because they're also lacking weapons in the passing game. They could also go for a cornerback. It'll be one of three, all top needs.




Cleveland Browns
Record: 4-12

* Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor Given the makeup of the roster, and the fact that they have two first-round picks and can really enhance the level of young talent, I think the Browns are far more likely to look at a young QB prospect than get into the bidding war for a veteran like Manning, or even Matt Flynn. One question I have is whether Cleveland stays at this spot and hopes Griffin is still around, or gets aggressive and moves up to No. 2 and guarantees they get their guy. Given his experience, leadership qualities and overall skill set, I don't see it as much of a leap for Griffin to be a Week 1 starter in 2012.




Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Record: 5-11

* Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama I'll say it again -- don't simply dismiss the idea that Richardson could land here because of the presence of LaGarrette Blount. A great running team now needs more than one good back, and Richardson is by far the best back on the board this year. As well, if the Bucs are going with a "best player available" mantra early on -- very possible given a wide range of needs -- Richardson would make a lot of sense here. Blount has power, but he's far more limited as an all-around back than Richardson. The Bucs were actually below league average in yards per rush in 2011, and could look to improve there.




Washington Redskins
Record: 5-11

* Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU The Redskins are a team I could certainly see moving off this pick, but if the draft broke this way, the pick makes a lot of sense on both need and value. And obviously, what the Skins could do in free agency for their offense is something I'm considering. Tyrann Mathieu got the headlines at LSU, but the best cornerback on the team was Claiborne. He's the top corner in the draft, and while the Skins have offensive needs, they should also be willing to draft best available when possible because the roster needs more talent, period. While not quite the athlete, Claiborne is actually a better pure cover corner than Patrick Peterson, the No. 5 overall pick from last year.


Jacksonville Jaguars
Record: 5-11

Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina If the Jags don't add help at wide receiver in free agency, they could look for help here, but they're also desperate for pass rush help. They sacked opposing quarterbacks fewer than two times a game in 2011, and Coples would fit in the scheme as the top 4-3 defensive end in the draft. He has ideal physical traits, with great length at 6-foot-6, and the size to hold up in the run game, complementing his pass-rush skills. Jacksonville is another team that simply needs to upgrade the talent level, so it shouldn't reach on offense at the cost of adding superior talent.


Carolina Panthers
Record: 6-10

* Michael Brockers, DT, LSU The Carolina defense in 2011 wasn't helped by injuries, but the result was a unit that couldn't stop the run, but also had a tough time generating consistent pressure on opposing quarterbacks. It starts up front, where the Panthers simply need to add talent. Brockers is a high-ceiling defensive tackle, a player who will thrive in any scheme, but could be particularly effective as a penetrator in the 4-3. The Panthers had to make do rotating a pair of rookies on the defensive interior last season, and really need to add talent and depth. The offense is going to be there -- they have to find some stoppers.


Miami Dolphins
Record: 6-10

* Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa The Dolphins will be adding a quarterback, and Reiff helps them finish what could be a solid offensive line in 2012. Reiff's tape was exceptional this past season, and given how complete he is right now, stepping in immediately on the right side shouldn't be a problem. Outside linebacker also makes some sense here, but Miami knows its offense is really close, and Reiff makes the quarterback situation that much more appealing, regardless of who takes the snaps. The Dolphins aced their first-round pick last year, also hitting the O-line. Wouldn't hurt them one bit to double down.


Buffalo Bills
Record: 6-10

Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama This is another pick that I'm staying with for now. The pass rush still needs a lot of help, and Upshaw is currently the best 3-4 outside linebacker in the draft. Even as Buffalo looks to shift that defense to a 4-3 (see Denver's draft strategy at No. 2 last year) Upshaw can still easily fit. Don't pass talent because of small scheme questions. He should be able to apply a lot of pressure to opposing quarterbacks from the edge for whoever gets him for 2012. Remember, nobody on the Bills managed more than 5.5 sacks in 2011, and as a team, they simply haven't been able to get pressure unless they bring numbers. This is an energetic talent, an edge linebacker in the mold of a more athletic LaMarr Woodley, a guy who has been well-coached and can start early.


Kansas City Chiefs
Record: 7-9

* Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College In Romeo Crennel's system, you have to find linebackers with great instincts who can be physical in the run game, make stops through the hole and get into the backfield. Kuechly is simply a machine, a prototype for what you want in an interior linebacker. He has exceptional instincts, and masks any questions of his speed by diagnosing the play faster than anybody out there. Can play a little high, but that's just quibbling, as he takes few false steps. I can see the Chiefs looking for a nose tackle, but this slot might be a little high for great value there.


Seattle Seahawks
Record: 7-9

Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina Some see the Seahawks looking at a QB this high, but the value doesn't make a lot of sense for me just yet. On the defensive side of the ball, the big need is help for the pass rush. Ingram has enough size to hold up in the 4-3, and will provide an upgrade. The Seattle defense is really fast, and could become dynamic if it can generate more pressure on opposing passers. If Kuechly is still here, I can also see that pick, but the development of K.J. Wright makes Ingram a good target.


Arizona Cardinals
Record: 8-8

* Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford As I've noted before, Arizona hasn't drafted an offensive lineman before the fifth round since 2007 -- and it's about time. Martin may start on the right side, but he has the physical tools to become the blindside tackle here. Questions remain about what the Cardinals will do at quarterback -- my guess for now is they simply stick with Kevin Kolb and hope that investment pays off -- but there's no question they have to be better up front regardless of who is back there. Martin has a lot of athleticism, is a very good run blocker, and should continue to improve his game.


Dallas Cowboys
Record: 8-8

Mark Barron, S, Alabama Dallas got shredded far too often with the passing game in 2011, and while Barron might be a very slight reach here in terms of his current grade, he's a perfect fit for the Cowboys. I have "defensive back" on my sheet as a big need in Big D, meaning they can't go wrong with either the top safety or the top cornerback here, and Barron offers the most value. Better in run support right now than he is in coverage, Barron could get better against the pass, but he's an upgrade for the Cowboys.


Philadelphia Eagles
Record: 8-8

* Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St. No team was softer up the middle than Philly in 2011, and while linebacker is a bigger need, it wouldn't be a very good value here if the board lines up like this. In Cox, you get a player who should be great in the 3-4, a powerful bull-rusher who can collapse the pocket, but also a guy who does a good job against the run and plays with a really high motor. I have wide receiver as another potential need, but the Philly defense needs to be a bigger priority in the draft. The Eagles can target a linebacker in the next round.


New York Jets
Record: 8-8

* Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia The Jets like to bill themselves as a ball control team on offense, able to run to set up the pass, and put away games with physical play up front. Well, it's hard to do that if you're 29th in the NFL in yards per rush, as they were in 2011. With Tony Sparano coming to town, my guess is shoring up the offensive line will be a priority (just as it was with his last pick in Miami) as the Jets try to get the offense back where they want it. Glenn is a really versatile guy who could probably be adequate at tackle, but could dominate inside. He could start there immediately.


Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland)
Record: 8-8

* Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama The Bengals held up pretty well against the pass last year, but should look for the heir to Johnathan Joseph, whom they lost to Houston before the 2011 season. Kirkpatrick fits the bill as a big, physical corner who doesn't give up much in coverage given his size (nearly 6-foot-3), which makes him particularly good inside the red zone. He's also not one to shy away from run support. The Bengals need a running back, too, but they can find value at that position much later. Glenn is also an option if the Jets don't make that pick.


San Diego Chargers
Record: 8-8

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame What happens with Vincent Jackson obviously could have an effect on this selection, but even if Jackson remains, the Chargers could use another player who can create matchup problems in the passing game. Floyd showed me a lot this year -- he cut his weight some and played lighter than 230 pounds, and it really made him a more explosive player. He can make plays all over the field in the passing game. The Chargers also must get some help on the offensive line, and could go that route here if they really like a player.


Chicago Bears
Record: 8-8

Mike Adams, OT, Ohio St. We know the Bears will be looking for help at wide receiver, but just because the offensive line could be characterized as semi-adequate doesn't mean they should make the mistake of neglecting it and letting it fall apart again. Mike Tice knows as well as anybody that Jay Cutler can be successful in the passing game first if he's not getting hit on every play. Adams is a guy who I've come around on, because he simply knows how to protect the pocket. He can slide his feet and doesn't get beat inside, but he has the length and technique to protect the edge.


Tennessee Titans
Record: 9-7

Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois They've devoted some draft attention to it in recent years, but the Titans' pass rush still needs help. Only Tampa Bay had more of a struggle getting to opposing passers last year. People talk about the quarterback situation in Tennessee, but I think it was the lack of a pass rush that kept the Titans (barely) out of the playoffs last year. Mercilus is, quite simply, a pass-rusher. I like his athleticism and uncanny ability to beat blockers. He needs a good combine to cement his status, but he could move even higher, and might be a good value here. The Titans need someone who can breathe on an opposing quarterback.


Cincinnati Bengals
Record: 9-7

* David DeCastro, G, Stanford I have guard as one of the top needs for the Bengals, and they won't do any better than DeCastro at this spot. A player who plays with exceptional awareness, DeCastro is the kind of guard who helps you crack off bigger gains in the run and screen game because he gets a great initial punch, but will also get to the second level and throw great blocks out in space. Again, I don't think Cincy gets enough value here at running back, but DeCastro helps the run game, too.


Cleveland Browns (from Atlanta)
Record: 4-12

Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor Cleveland needs help at wide receiver but may not be able to get it in free agency, and Wright is a player who can provide an element the Browns don't have right now. The pick makes sense on both need and value. Wright quietly had a season that almost matched Blackmon's in the Big 12. Greg Little was inconsistent but certainly showed a lot of promise as a rookie, and Wright is a good complement. He's smaller at about 5-10, 190 pounds, but adds a speed threat this offense really needs. He'll stretch the field with speed. The Browns need weapons, and Wright fits the profile.


Detroit Lions
Record: 10-6

Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama At one time, Jenkins was destined to be a top-10 pick, and his talent level hasn't dipped. After exiting Florida, he spent a year at North Alabama, and is finally ready for the NFL. As a pure cover corner, in terms of pure instincts, ball skills and athleticism, you're looking at a potential Pro Bowl player. Jenkins is already a major threat in the return game. He has a history, but get him in the right system, and you could have a star. We know Detroit needs help at corner, and Jenkins might be too much value to pass up here.


Pittsburgh Steelers
Record: 12-4

* Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis The Steelers are always going to find answers under the brilliant Dick LeBeau, but they have to get younger, particularly up front, and they know it. Poe is that rare zero-technique centerpiece to a 3-4 defense, the guy who simply eats up blockers and frees up the linebackers. If he develops, Poe can be the heir to Casey Hampton in the middle of that scheme, and these guys are just really tough to find. The value lines up as well.


Denver Broncos
Record: 8-8

Devon Still, DT, Penn St. Denver has the pass rush off the edge but could add some depth on the interior, and Still is a guy who can penetrate and get tackles for loss from the inside. The Broncos could go a few ways here, which is actually a good thing as they pursue value, and I could certainly look for them to target a corner at this spot, but Still makes a lot of sense in that scheme. I have wide receiver down as a need, but they have a pretty good combo there right now, and given the struggles the offense could face, they need to be able to get stops.


Houston Texans
Record: 10-6

* Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan St. Houston did an exceptional job in last year's draft, locking up players who would fit in Wade Phillips' system. And even the injury Mario Williams suffered didn't derail them. Worthy, when he's on his game, can be really dynamic. He has a really good burst for his size, allowing him to penetrate and be really disruptive against both the run and the pass. He'll tie up blockers because he can be really hard to neutralize one on one. He just needs to be consistent, but if Houston can rotate him in, it'll get good production early.


New England Patriots (from Saints)
Record: 13-3

Vinny Curry, OLB, Marshall Curry is a really good pass-rusher for a team that needs to find some help in that area. I'm not sure he's the best candidate to play OLB in a 3-4, but Bill Belichick can scheme around his personnel as well as anybody, and if he loves a pass-rusher, he'll find a way to make it work. Curry has violent hands and can really get a tackle off-balance. He can also swim to the inside. The Patriots need to add talent to the front seven, and Curry is a start.


Green Bay Packers
Record: 15-1

Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame The Packers are another team that should be looking for the best value possible at either safety or cornerback, and Smith provides value here. What I like about Smith is his ability to do it all. He's not the world's greatest athlete, but any scout will tell you: At this position, you take the instincts over the athlete 100 out of 100 times. Smith gets great jumps in coverage and will get in passing lanes, but he's also outstanding in run support. You don't lose ground in one area when he's out there.


Baltimore Ravens
Record: 12-4

Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin With Ray Lewis' decision to come back for another year, the Ravens might be a little less desperate to find the next great linebacker, and can instead hit another big need. Matt Birk will need a replacement at center, and Konz is the best one in the draft. He's like a good quarterback, picking up every blitz and stunt, and has the kind of smarts in calling out things that will really help the quarterback. The Ravens were a mess up front for portions of 2011 and will need to add help there.


San Francisco 49ers
Record: 13-3

* Rueben Randle, WR, LSU Randle could be a steal. This is a guy who, in a more dynamic passing offense, could have been far more productive. Obviously, the combine will tell us a lot, but Randle could be preferred over Alshon Jeffery of South Carolina, because he has the length, but will be a lot quicker into and out of his breaks because he's got a leaner frame. He's better suited to beat opposing defenses over the top. The Niners need a big target in the passing game outside of Vernon Davis, and Randle could be that guy.


New England Patriots
Record: 13-3

Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut We've seen the value of Vince Wilfork, and while Reyes isn't the size of a city block, he certainly has some of the traits of a guy who can help a defense similarly. When he gets good leverage (which he usually does), Reyes is really strong and will get offensive linemen up off their feet as he pushes them into the backfield. He's not going to shed blocks as a brilliant pass-rusher would, but Reyes can develop into the guy who makes everybody else a better pass-rusher because he demands so much blocking help.


New York Giants
Record: 9-7

* Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson The Super Bowl will provide plenty of good memories for Giants fans, but from a personnel standpoint, people should also remember the injuries they suffered at tight end, and Allen is the best one in this draft. He's a fantastic athlete, can create matchup problems and further diversify the Giants' offense as they maximize this window of exceptional quarterback play. The Giants could also look for help on the offensive line, or target a linebacker here, but I expect Allen's profile to rise during the workout process, and he should represent a lot of value here.
Dirty
Ouais rien de bien nouveau.
Fletcher Cox semble un poil haut
Kendall Wright trop bas
DeCastro idem

Le nouveau mec à la mode c'est Rueben Randle, que j'ai pas spécialement trouvé marquant cette année.
DimSet
Sérieux Blackmon en 2 edhelas.gif Barron encore plus haut qu'avant sa blessure implosion du tibia.gif Cordy Glenn avant DeCastro et surtout au Jets alors qu'on a 52000 position à pourvoir avant un G knahos.gif
Dirty
Citation (DimSet @ 16/02/2012 13:52) *
Sérieux Blackmon en 2 edhelas.gif Barron encore plus haut qu'avant sa blessure implosion du tibia.gif Cordy Glenn avant DeCastro et surtout au Jets alors qu'on a 52000 position à pourvoir avant un G knahos.gif

Cordy Glenn est plutôt vu comme un OT chez les pros.
Pour Blackmon,il le dit lui même que ça sera surement Griffin en#2 mais comme il anticipe pas les trades.
DimSet
Citation (Dirty @ 16/02/2012 14:00) *
Cordy Glenn est plutôt vu comme un OT chez les pros.
Pour Blackmon,il le dit lui même que ça sera surement Griffin en#2 mais comme il anticipe pas les trades.


Ouais mais bon, soit tu fais avec les trades soit tu fais pas, tu fais un espèce de truc hybride en mettant des picks foireux au début pour avoir une mock qui tient la route sur le reste...
Pour Glenn, ok mais je vois clairement pas les Jets prendre un joueur ou il y aurait du taf et des risques au 1er tour surtout pour l'OL surtout si Mike Adams est dispo...Si on prend un OL il faut que ca soit plug & play à RT.
Varino
Citation (Dirty @ 16/02/2012 12:55) *


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Excellente passé la moitié laugh.gif
CL
"C'est mon club de coeur" © : http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1332103

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Hurst (Texas) L.D. Bell TE Chris Barnett (2011)
Commitments: Oklahoma-Arkansas-Michigan
His recruiting story: Barnett committed to Oklahoma a year before he would be able to sign his letter of intent. He reconsidered his decision four months later and started looking around again. Barnett, the No. 14 tight end and No. 224 overall prospect in 2011, committed to Arkansas after an October official visit. But he decided in January to tour Miami and Michigan before signing. He picked Michigan in a Signing Day decision. "I expect nothing less but to contend for Big Ten championships," Barnett told TheWolverine.com at the time. "After we contend for Big Ten championships, I expect to contend for national championships and I plan on winning one before I leave."
How it worked out: Barnett departed long before he got a chance to win a championship. He left school in August and never played a down for the Wolverines.

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J'avais une question pour les experts c'est quoi votre avis sur Kuechly ? J'ai regardé un match plus un paquet de vidéos de l'ensemble de ses snaps sur tel ou tel match, mais je lui trouve rien de fou, enfin rien qui justifie un 1st round. Perso j'y toucherais pas avant le 3e round...
Dirty
Citation (DimSet @ 17/02/2012 19:12) *
J'avais une question pour les experts c'est quoi votre avis sur Kuechly ? J'ai regardé un match plus un paquet de vidéos de l'ensemble de ses snaps sur tel ou tel match, mais je lui trouve rien de fou, enfin rien qui justifie un 1st round. Perso j'y toucherais pas avant le 3e round...

Pour moi il a un grade late first-mid second.. similaire à James Laurinaitis.
Je crois que ce qui plait aux scouts chez lui,ce sont ses "intangibles" et ses instincts. Le genre de mec que tu fous au milieu et direct c'est un leader de ta défense pendant 10 ans hop on en parle plus.
C'est difficile a scouter des LBs car en général tu le vois plaquer et blitzer et voilà.
Après faut regarder comment il anticipe,lit le jeu,réagit et c'est là que Kuechly excelle.
Par contre,il lui faut une 4-3 car il a du mal avec les OL.
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Citation (Dirty @ 17/02/2012 20:27) *
Pour moi il a un grade late first-mid second.. similaire à James Laurinaitis.
Je crois que ce qui plait aux scouts chez lui,ce sont ses "intangibles" et ses instincts. Le genre de mec que tu fous au milieu et direct c'est un leader de ta défense pendant 10 ans hop on en parle plus.
C'est difficile a scouter des LBs car en général tu le vois plaquer et blitzer et voilà.
Après faut regarder comment il anticipe,lit le jeu,réagit et c'est là que Kuechly excelle.
Par contre,il lui faut une 4-3 car il a du mal avec les OL.


Justement c'est ce que je regardais mais je lui trouve vraiment rien de fou. Le mec fait son beurre sur les tackles mais souvent c'est après que le runner ait fait entre 5 et 8 yards je l'ai vu faire très peu de tackle for loss par exemple pourtant c'est la que se voit surtout l'instinct je trouve pour un LB. D'ailleurs j'ai aussi trouvé que sur les juke move il est (trop) facilement éliminé et puis j'ai pas eu l'impression de voir un gros leader sur le terrain plus un mec qui connait son job et le fait bien. Peut de FF aussi pour un mec qui tackle autant.
Bon après c'est que mon avis et je suis pas scout c'est clair tongue.gif , mais pour un 1st round j'attendrais plus que ca, même si c'est déjà pas mal.
Dirty
Citation (DimSet @ 17/02/2012 20:38) *
Le mec fait son beurre sur les tackles mais souvent c'est après que le runner ait fait entre 5 et 8 yards je l'ai vu faire très peu de tackle for loss par exemple

Haha c'est EXACTEMENT ce qu'on disait sur Laurinaitis avant la draft et regardes, c'est un des tous meilleurs inside backers de la NFL maintenant.
Mais il peut très bien se retrouver en fin de round ou en second vu qu'il joue pas a une position premium.
Les Eagles ou Giants en auraient bien besoin.
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Citation (Dirty @ 17/02/2012 20:50) *
Haha c'est EXACTEMENT ce qu'on disait sur Laurinaitis avant la draft et regardes, c'est un des tous meilleurs inside backers de la NFL maintenant.
Mais il peut très bien se retrouver en fin de round ou en second vu qu'il joue pas a une position premium.
Les Eagles ou Giants en auraient bien besoin.


On verra bien, c'est tout le mal que je lui souhaite happy.gif Mais je suis bien content qu'il soit absolument hors de considération pour les Jets ph34r.gif
CL
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news...tcu-drugarrests

Les joueurs qui vendent de la drogue sur le campus jeanlucpicard.gif
CL
Pour les fans de College Football, vous en pensez quoi de ce jeu que je viens de trouver http://www.whatifsports.com/gd/ ? En gros, le but est de diriger un programme complet de foot universitaire.
Varino
Je connais pas.
CL
Je viens de voir qu'une saison durait 35 jours tout compris donc vraiment court et chronophage je pense et qu'il faut repayer 11 ou 12 dollars à chaque fois donc à oublier.
sylvain
Citation (CL @ 19/02/2012 10:19) *
Je viens de voir qu'une saison durait 35 jours tout compris donc vraiment court et chronophage je pense et qu'il faut repayer 11 ou 12 dollars à chaque fois donc à oublier.

On voit le détenteur d'une Xbox360 qui se fait niquer avec le codage région de College Football en tout cas. ph34r.gif
La même pour moi.

Sinon, parmi ceux qui DL sur TYT, vous n'avez aucun souci avec l'upload? Moi, ça n'émet rien du tout.. sad.gif
CL
Citation (sylvain @ 19/02/2012 10:23) *
On voit le détenteur d'une Xbox360 qui se fait niquer avec le codage région de College Football en tout cas. ph34r.gif
La même pour moi.

Ouais sad.gif
HHA
Je suis entrain de revoir un gros résumé du Superbowl sur ESPN America, avec les micros et donc les réactions des mecs tout au long du match. Super prenant et intéressant.
CL


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Le combine débute !
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10 things to watch at combine
Workouts could help determine No. 3 QB; clarity regarding RBs awaits, too

Indianapolis hosted perhaps the best-run Super Bowl in the game's 46-year run. This week's return to Indy for the NFL scouting combine should be a breeze.

A total of 327 draft prospects started converging on downtown Indianapolis on Wednesday to be poked, probed and tested by NFL teams in the next seven days.

More than just draft research, the combine is to pro football what the winter meetings are to baseball. With the official league year starting shortly after the conclusion of the combine, teams will start talking trades, determining the value of potential free agents, working on getting under the salary cap and making other plans for the 2012 season.

Virtually every scout, coach, general manager, agent and most of the top draft prospects will be in town. Here are 10 things to watch in the 2012 combine.

1. Figuring out the quarterback hierarchy: Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck is expected to go to the Indianapolis Colts as the first pick in the draft. Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III is the next quarterback pick, and, if the Rams can begin shopping his talents, a team will move up to the No. 2 selection to take him. But who's No. 3? Most teams have different ratings on the quarterbacks behind Luck and Griffin. The list includes Ryan Tannehill of Texas A&M, Brandon Weeden of Oklahoma State, Brock Osweiler of Arizona State, Kirk Cousins of Michigan State and Nick Foles of Arizona.

Luck and Griffin might run 40-yard dashes, but they won't be throwing Sunday, reserving their shows for their pro days in March. Tannehill is injured and won't work out. The rest of the quarterbacks need to do as much as they can to sort out this year's class. Each has to overcome questions. For Weeden, it's his age. He's going to be a 28-year-old rookie. If Osweiler measures out close to 6-foot-8, that could be a negative because very few quarterbacks that tall succeed. A good combine could help Cousins and Foles improve some second- and third-round grades.


AP Photo/Dave MartinTrent Richardson is trying to prove he's worthy of being a top-15 pick.

2. Placing the running backs:
It's tough to be a running back these days. The move to a passing league has devalued featured backs. Mark Ingram won the Heisman Trophy in 2010, but that netted him only the 28th pick in the first round, when the Saints traded up to get him. The next back didn't go until the 38th pick.

This year's backs will be battling similar problems. Trent Richardson of Alabama is clearly the best back in the draft. In many circles, he's a top-10 pick. But he either has to run a good 40 time or convince a top-15 team in need of a running back that he's too valuable to pass up. As with the quarterback position, the combine starts the battle to see who is the No. 2 back and whether that back merits first-round consideration. Among the candidates are Lamar Miller of the University of Miami, Chris Polk of Washington, David Wilson of Virginia Tech and Doug Martin of Boise State.

3. QB-WR match game: A recent successful trend has been drafting a big, fast wideout to become the go-to receiver for a talented, young quarterback. The Falcons traded up to acquire Julio Jones to help out Matt Ryan. The Bengals had instant success putting A.J. Green with Andy Dalton. The Calvin Johnson-Matthew Stafford and Andre Johnson-Matt Schaub pairings created major problems for defenses.

Justin Blackmon of Oklahoma State is considered the best receiver in a deep class of pass-catchers. The Rams found out last season that they lacked the receiving threats to advance the development of Sam Bradford. They have the second pick in the draft and could trade down to a team that needs Griffin, but trading down too much could cost them Blackmon. The Panthers, a team that used to emphasize defense and the running game, advanced into the quarterback age last season with the success of Cam Newton. They might be willing to trade up to get Blackmon.

Most of the top receivers, such as Michael Floyd, Mohamed Sanu, Alshon Jeffery, Rueben Randle and Stephen Hill, have great size. Good 40 times and great workouts could excite teams.

4. Hot corners: One of the highlights of the upcoming draft is the depth at cornerback. More than 10 corners could go in the first two rounds. Because recent combines have been on television, corners have treated combines like track meets. They train hard, and, if they have speed, they don't fear running at the combine. More defenses are looking for man-to-man corners, and the bigger and faster the better.

Taller cornerbacks such as Dre Kirkpatrick of Alabama, Stephon Gilmore of South Carolina and Trumaine Johnson of Montana could really help themselves with great workouts. Because there are so many good prospects at corner this year, the combine will start sorting out where they might go.

5. Figuring out the hybrids: Because quarterbacks are getting rid of the ball so quickly, the premium in drafts is finding pass-rushers. One of the problems, though, is determining whether they fit as a 3-4 linebacker or a 4-3 defensive end. Melvin Ingram of South Carolina and Courtney Upshaw of Alabama are 270-plus-pound linebacker prospects, but 4-3 teams such as the Seahawks have to watch the workouts carefully to see whether these players could work as defensive ends in a 4-3. Nick Perry of Southern Cal and Whitney Mercilus of Illinois are undersized defensive ends. Would they fit better in a 3-4? Their workouts could help the teams in need of pass-rushers answer those questions.

6. Bulking up the middle of offensive lines: Guards and centers do not get selected often in the first round because teams in need of blockers prioritize the tackle position. But the recent successes of interior blockers such as Maurkice Pouncey of the Steelers and Mike Iupati of the 49ers have allowed teams to appreciate guards and centers more in the first round.

That's what makes this an interesting combine for guards David DeCastro (Stanford) and Cordy Glenn (Georgia) and center Peter Konz (Wisconsin). DeCastro has the dimensions of a tackle, but, because he's so dominant in the middle, he could go in the top 15. Glenn (6-6, 346 pounds) could be switched to tackle. Konz (6-5, 315) is considered the best center prospect. With a few more teams shifting to the 4-3, the value of guards and centers to protect the pocket of the quarterback will influence this combine.


Vincent Muzik/Icon SMIIf the Rams hold on to the No. 2 pick, USC's Matt Kalil could be their guy.

7. Competition at tackle:
Matt Kalil of Southern Cal is considered the best offensive tackle in the draft and could go as high as the second pick if the Rams can't pull off a trade. Offensive line coaches will be hoping many offensive tackles work out to see which ones have the footwork to be a left tackle and protect the quarterback's blind side.

Left tackles are on islands blocking defensive ends and pass-rushing linebackers. Good combines could only help Riley Reiff of Iowa, Mike Adams of Ohio State, Jonathan Martin of Stanford and others.

8. Will the great run on tight ends continue? Thanks to Vernon Davis, Rob Gronkowski, Jimmy Graham and others, the NFL is in a golden era of tight end play. All of a sudden, it's hard to win without a top tight end who can stretch the seam or have a big presence in the middle of the field.

There are 14 tight ends at the combine, and all will be trying to prove themselves. Among the names to watch are Coby Fleener of Stanford, Dwayne Allen of Clemson and Orson Charles of Georgia. This doesn't appear to be a deep class, but the combine will begin to show whether it's a good one.

9. Franchises and franchise players: Starting Monday, teams with unsigned players will have 15 days to decide how they'll use the franchise tag. With agents for the top players here in Indianapolis, negotiations on long-term deals will be intense. With more than $700 million of cap room and more than 470 free agents, something has to give. Agents and general managers will be huddling up in coffee shops, restaurants and suites throughout the city.

10. Trade discussions, salary-cap cuts and Peyton Manning: The new collective bargaining agreement rolled back the value of top draft choices. Instead of six-year contracts that topped out at $78 million, the top pick settles for a $22 million, four-year deal. For the first time in years, teams won't fear trading into the top five. The Rams might as well set up a trading post to service teams such as Cleveland, Washington and Miami, which might want to trade up to acquire RG3.

It's not out of the question for swaps of draft picks to start as early as March, but the foundations of those discussions could start in Indianapolis. This week, teams should find out the final salary-cap number, which isn't supposed to go much higher than $120.375 million. And yes, the big offseason story remains Manning. Colts owner Jim Irsay could meet with Manning this week to sort out whether he will stay a Colt or be released.
Dirty
Richardson ne courra pas au Combine sad.gif
Vraiment impatient de voir les chronos de Miller (prono 4.38) happy.gif
CL
Citation (Dirty @ 23/02/2012 12:49) *
Richardson ne courra pas au Combine sad.gif
Vraiment impatient de voir les chronos de Miller (prono 4.38) happy.gif

Pourquoi ? Il se réserve pour le Pro Day d'Alabama ?

Polk a gros à jouer sur ce combine, apparemment il a perdu du poids depuis le Senior Bowl pour faire un bon temps au 40.
Dirty
Citation (CL @ 23/02/2012 13:03) *
Pourquoi ? Il se réserve pour le Pro Day d'Alabama ?

Polk a gros à jouer sur ce combine, apparemment il a perdu du poids depuis le Senior Bowl pour faire un bon temps au 40.

Il s'est fait opéré du genou il y a 3 semaines.
Citation
Alabama RB Trent Richardson will not participate in on-field drills at the Combine after undergoing a knee scope three weeks ago.
NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reports that the surgery was "minor," and it sounds arthroscopic in nature. Richardson does plan to work out at the Crimson Tide Pro Day, but he won't run the forty-yard dash or participate in drills or jumps in Indianapolis. Though the injury is said to be minor and the operation routine, it will concern NFL teams, especially those drafting in the top ten. Running backs and knee injuries don't mix well.


Pressé aussi de voir le 40 de Streeter, il est très rapide pour sa taille, il peut aussi passer un sub 4.4 et ça ferait du bien à sa côte.
Mais bon, je m'attends pas à des supers temps, la piste est beaucoup moins rapide que l'ancienne.
DimSet
Moi j'annonce juste qu'Alshon va faire taire toutes les critiques smoke2.gif

Sinon il y a un autre joueur que je vais regarder attentivement et que j'espère pouvoir drafter en fantasy mais sa cote est en train de grimper un peu trop vite sad.gif
Dirty
Citation (DimSet @ 23/02/2012 13:48) *
Moi j'annonce juste qu'Alshon va faire taire toutes les critiques smoke2.gif

Sinon il y a un autre joueur que je vais regarder attentivement et que j'espère pouvoir drafter en fantasy mais sa cote est en train de grimper un peu trop vite sad.gif

Possible pour Alshon oui, si les rumeurs comme quoi il a fondu sont vraies.

Malheureusement, il n'y aura plus vraiment de sleeper quand sera le temps de faire notre draft wacko.gif
CL
Citation (Dirty @ 23/02/2012 13:51) *
Possible pour Alshon oui, si les rumeurs comme quoi il a fondu sont vraies.

Malheureusement, il n'y aura plus vraiment de sleeper quand sera le temps de faire notre draft wacko.gif

Ouais, c'est le côté frustrant d'avoir suivi une saison de NCAA, plus le combine, pour se retrouver quasiment au même niveau que le mec qui regarde juste le classement de la draft sad.gif Je comprends mieux certaines frustrations passées pour certains d'entre vous ph34r.gif
Fred
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DimSet
Apparemment les Jets ont restructuré le contrat de Ferguson pour obtenir 7.5m$ de cap space cet année. C'est une bonne nouvelle et avec les cuts à venir on devrait être pas mal avant l'ouverture des FA vu le nombre de trou qu'il y a dans l'équipe mais j'espère juste que ca sera pas utilisé pour faire venir Peyton kratos77.gif

D'ailleurs on pourrait pas introduire la restructuration de contrat en dynasty ? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
CL
Citation (DimSet @ 23/02/2012 15:18) *
D'ailleurs on pourrait pas introduire la restructuration de contrat en dynasty ? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

T'avais une offre en or sur la table et tu l'as refusée alors viens pas pleurer ph34r.gif
Lask
Richardson et sa petite blessure au genou on en sait plus ou pas ? Possible que ce soit un truc récurrent ?

:1stpickendanger:
CL
Citation (Lask @ 23/02/2012 16:35) *
Richardson et sa petite blessure au genou on en sait plus ou pas ? Possible que ce soit un truc récurrent ?

:1stpickendanger:

Tu t'en mordras les couilles si tu le prends pas happy.gif
Lask
Citation (CL @ 23/02/2012 16:46) *
Tu t'en mordras les couilles si tu le prends pas happy.gif


En fait je veux un deuxième RB supplémentaire lors de cette draft et pas un Delone Carter sad.gif

Si quelqu'un intéressé par un de mes WR contre son 1st pick de cette draft je peux être intéressé happy.gif
CL
Citation (Lask @ 23/02/2012 16:52) *
En fait je veux un deuxième RB supplémentaire lors de cette draft et pas un Delone Carter sad.gif

Si quelqu'un intéressé par un de mes WR contre son 1st pick de cette draft je peux être intéressé happy.gif

C'est pas le bon topic mais ton armada vend pas trop du rêve, surtout contre un 1st pick ph34r.gif
DimSet
Citation (CL @ 23/02/2012 17:00) *
C'est pas le bon topic mais ton armada vend pas trop du rêve, surtout contre un 1st pick ph34r.gif


Dans son armada il y a 2 joueurs qui valent facile un 1st pick et 2 autres pour lesquelles ca peut se discuter en fonction de l'évolution des FA.
CL
Citation (DimSet @ 23/02/2012 17:08) *
Dans son armada il y a 2 joueurs qui valent facile un 1st pick et 2 autres pour lesquelles ca peut se discuter en fonction de l'évolution des FA.

Tout dépend de la valeur de ton 1st pick aussi. Après j'avais zappé son Brandon Marshall. Mais par exemple Desean, avec son contrat (6,4 M), je serais pas prêt à le prendre en lâchant un 1st pick (3rd overall) même si sur la valeur intrinsèque y a trop rien à dire.
Lask
Citation (CL @ 23/02/2012 17:24) *
Tout dépend de la valeur de ton 1st pick aussi. Après j'avais zappé son Brandon Marshall. Mais par exemple Desean, avec son contrat (6,4 M), je serais pas prêt à le prendre en lâchant un 1st pick (3rd overall) même si sur la valeur intrinsèque y a trop rien à dire.


Marshall est le seul que je ne traderais pas (deux ans de contrat ph34r.gif )

Desean est évidemment visé mais je pense à Rice également qui peut intéresser des Seahawks fan.
Varino
Citation (DimSet @ 23/02/2012 13:48) *
Moi j'annonce juste qu'Alshon va faire taire toutes les critiques smoke2.gif

Ca va être intéressant à suivre ouai. Je le souhaite pour lui, ca a l'air d'être un pur talent foncièrement, juste pas le meilleur physiquement.
Un autre que j'ai hate de voir (enfin, je regarderais pas, mais voir ses temps) Dwight Jones le receveur, que le blog des Seahawks annonce comme le meilleur WR de cette classe depuis le milieu de saison, et qui ne figure même pas dans certaines récap sur d'autres sites (genre l'article cité ici).
CL
Citation (Varino @ 23/02/2012 19:34) *
Ca va être intéressant à suivre ouai. Je le souhaite pour lui, ca a l'air d'être un pur talent foncièrement, juste pas le meilleur physiquement.
Un autre que j'ai hate de voir (enfin, je regarderais pas, mais voir ses temps) Dwight Jones le receveur, que le blog des Seahawks annonce comme le meilleur WR de cette classe depuis le milieu de saison, et qui ne figure même pas dans certaines récap sur d'autres sites (genre l'article cité ici).

Selon Scout Inc, c'est le 16ème WR de cette draft avec un grade de 64. La vérité est ptet entre les deux.
Dirty
Citation (Lask @ 23/02/2012 16:35) *
Richardson et sa petite blessure au genou on en sait plus ou pas ? Possible que ce soit un truc récurrent ?

:1stpickendanger:

En général RB + blessure au genou = red flag
Après, c'était apparemment pas très grave mais les scouts vont bien se renseigner la dessus au Combine.

Citation (Varino @ 23/02/2012 19:34) *
Ca va être intéressant à suivre ouai. Je le souhaite pour lui, ca a l'air d'être un pur talent foncièrement, juste pas le meilleur physiquement.
Un autre que j'ai hate de voir (enfin, je regarderais pas, mais voir ses temps) Dwight Jones le receveur, que le blog des Seahawks annonce comme le meilleur WR de cette classe depuis le milieu de saison, et qui ne figure même pas dans certaines récap sur d'autres sites (genre l'article cité ici).

Faut qu'il arrête les drogues ton pote Rob ph34r.gif
En tant que prospect, tu ne peux pas dire que c'est le meilleur de la classe quand t'as Blackmon, Floyd ou Wright en face.

Passé ce top 3 indiscutable, tu as un gros panel de joueurs à bon potentiel avec différents profils comme Jeffery, Sanu, McNutt, Randle, Hill et donc Jones
CL
Le combine est bien diffusé gratuitement sur NFL.com ? Je suis excité comme une pucelle kratos77.gif
Dirty
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Le combine est bien diffusé gratuitement sur NFL.com ? Je suis excité comme une pucelle kratos77.gif

Comme chaque année oui, le feed de NFL Network smile.gif
Excité moi aussi wub.gif mais juste pour les 2 courses de mon poulain wub.gif wub.gif ph34r.gif

LaRon Landry ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif neokill@h.gif
Varino
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Comme chaque année oui, le feed de NFL Network smile.gif
Excité moi aussi wub.gif mais juste pour les 2 courses de mon poulain wub.gif wub.gif ph34r.gif

Si Jeff Demps est invité ca peut être sympa aussi le 40 yards.

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LaRon Landry ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif neokill@h.gif

Pas un fake, ça vient de son twitter

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NewYorkSup
C'est pas samedi sur nfl.com?
CL
Citation (Dirty @ 23/02/2012 21:13) *
Comme chaque année oui, le feed de NFL Network smile.gif
Excité moi aussi wub.gif mais juste pour les 2 courses de mon poulain wub.gif wub.gif ph34r.gif

LaRon Landry ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif neokill@h.gif

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Citation (NewYorkSup @ 23/02/2012 21:14) *
C'est pas samedi sur nfl.com?

T'es sur ?
Dirty
Citation (Varino @ 23/02/2012 21:14) *
Si Jeff Demps est invité ca peut être sympa aussi le 40 yards.

Non, Jeff Demps abandonne le foot pour se consacrer à l'athlétisme wink.gif
Par contre son coéquipier Chris Rainey est le favori pour le meilleur 40 (sub 4.30 possible)
Varino
Citation (Dirty @ 23/02/2012 21:16) *
Non, Jeff Demps abandonne le foot pour se consacrer à l'athlétisme wink.gif
Par contre son coéquipier Chris Rainey est le favori pour le meilleur 40 (sub 4.30 possible)

Florida, toujours des sprinteurs la bas.

Cool pour lui sinon, j'espère qu'il ira aux JO.
NewYorkSup
Citation (CL @ 23/02/2012 15:15) *
T'es sur ?

J'ai ca:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/live
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