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DimSet
Citation (NewYorkSup @ 29/02/2012 23:25) *
C'est pas mal Upshaw quand meme, moi je m'en plaindrais pas.


Non mais je m'en plains pas mais l'année dernière le mec il fait à peine 1st round quoi, avec le même spot on aurait eu Kerrigan (wub.gif) cry.gif Fondamentalement c'est un bon joueur mais il y a rien de sexy, d'exitant chez lui sad.gif

Je prie tout les soirs pour qu'on trade down et qu'on choppe Stephen Hill mon chouchou wub.gif En plus c'est un perfect fit pour notre offense.
CL
Tannehill est annoncé quasi partout aux Redskins, pas vraiment une surprise non plus..'

Pour Upshaw, après l'avoir revu en vidéo et relu des rapports, je serais plutôt content qu'on ne le chope pas finalement. Pas très rapide alors qu'on a besoin de vitesse et évoluant dans une défense 3-4 à Alabama, j'ai des doutes quand à son adaptation dans notre défense 4-3 en tant que DE pass rusher.

Hill aux Texans ça a vraiment du sens, par contre, au delà de ses perfs physiques de ouf, il est encore assez brut, non ?
Dirty
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Tannehill aussi haut finalement ? Même si logique dans un sens quand on regarde ne serait ce que la draft de l'année dernière...

Oui c'est inévitable, type de profil similaire à Locker et sera beaucoup mieux gradé que Ponder.
Dans ce scénario, Washington perd Griffin et doit prendre soit Tannehill soit Manning en FA.

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Mike Adams aussi haut malgré son combine tout pourri ?

Combine décevant c'est vrai mais bonne gametape,upside et équipes en manque d'OT.
Cela dit, sa fourchette est large, là c'est best case scenario pour lui, late 1st au pire.

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DT plutot que CB à Dallas ? Même si logique vu qu'ils devrait pouvoir en prendre un bon au 2e.

C'était soit lui soit Kirkpatrick ou Jenkins, j'ai du changer ce pick 10 fois au moins.
Fletcher Cox est un fit parfait pour la défense des Cowboys

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Une autre question si Claiborne est dispo pour Tampa il le prendront ou resteront sur Richardson ?

Claiborne serait le no brainer pour Tampa à 100%.
Dans le cas de ma mock, j'ai hésité entre Trent et Reiff.

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Sinon les Jets Upshaw ca parait logique mais j'arrive pas à m'enthousiasmer pour ce joueur sad.gif En tout cas le choix pour nous semble se limiter à soit à DE/OLB ou WR vu qu'on a annoncer qu'on prendrait pas d'OL dans les 1er tour et que safety c'est trop haut. J'espère vraiment qu'on va trade down mais si on doit bouger je nous vois plutot trade up avec Tannenbaum ce qui serait bien con vu le nombre de trou de l'équipe sad.gif

Upshaw risque de ne pas être là de toute façon ph34r.gif
Jacksonville,Miami ou Buffalo peuvent très bien le prendre.
Le truc avec lui, c'est qu'on se demande s'il ne serait pas mieux en 4-3 DE (les équipes citées ci dessus)

Pour les Jets, j'ai considéré Wright,Barron et Upshaw.


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Hill aux Texans ça a vraiment du sens, par contre, au delà de ses perfs physiques de ouf, il est encore assez brut, non ?

Très brut, comme Demaryius Thomas, le mec a joué dans une attaque ultra run heavy où on lui demandait de courir 3 routes en tout.
Donc plus brut que Thomas mais je pense un peu plus d'upside (profil à la Randy Moss)
DimSet
Merci pour toutes les réponses wink.gif

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Upshaw risque de ne pas être là de toute façon ph34r.gif
Jacksonville,Miami ou Buffalo peuvent très bien le prendre.

Pour les Jets, j'ai considéré Wright,Barron et Upshaw.


J'espère qu'il sera plus là ph34r.gif Aucun de ceux que t'as considéré me font bander sad.gif Ptêt Wright et encore...Franchement je sens que je vais être trop dessus de cette draft je la sens pas du tout sad.gif Le seul truc qui pourrait me faire surkiffer au 1st round hormis un trade down c'est si Richardson est dispo vers le 10e pick un trade up pour lui et Dieu sait qu'on est super chaud sur lui si ca arrive.
Dirty
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Merci pour toutes les réponses wink.gif



J'espère qu'il sera plus là ph34r.gif Aucun de ceux que t'as considéré me font bander sad.gif Ptêt Wright et encore...Franchement je sens que je vais être trop dessus de cette draft je la sens pas du tout sad.gif Le seul truc qui pourrait me faire surkiffer au 1st round hormis un trade down c'est si Richardson est dispo vers le 10e pick un trade up pour lui et Dieu sait qu'on est super chaud sur lui si ca arrive.

Je pense que tu changerais vite d'avis avec Wright (parfait remplaçant d'Holmes en moins con) ou Barron (top 15 de cette draft niveau talent), vraiment 2 supers joueurs smile.gif
DimSet
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Je pense que tu changerais vite d'avis avec Wright (parfait remplaçant d'Holmes en moins con) ou Barron (top 15 de cette draft niveau talent), vraiment 2 supers joueurs smile.gif


Non mais je les trouve bons c'est pas le souci c'est juste que j'accroche pas. Encore si Barron je l'aime bien mais pas en 16 quoi. En fait c'est surtout ca le truc l'impression qu'après le top 10/12 il y a une certaine baisse niveau talent, du moins dans ce que cherche les Jets, et j'ai pas le sentiment qu'on maximise la valeur du pick avec un Barron ou un Wright vu qu'il y a une grosse profondeur en bon WR cette année.
NewYorkSup
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Non mais je m'en plains pas mais l'année dernière le mec il fait à peine 1st round quoi, avec le même spot on aurait eu Kerrigan (wub.gif) cry.gif Fondamentalement c'est un bon joueur mais il y a rien de sexy, d'exitant chez lui sad.gif

Je prie tout les soirs pour qu'on trade down et qu'on choppe Stephen Hill mon chouchou wub.gif En plus c'est un perfect fit pour notre offense.

D'apres ce que j'en ai lu de toute facon, la draft cette annee est assez dense en bons joueurs mais y a pas de ouf (a part Luck et peut etre RGIII et Trent). Je prefere qu'on choppe Upshaw a la draft et qu'on essaie de prendre Colston en FA plutot que de prendre un WR qui sera peut etre pas mauvais mais qui nous fera pas passer un cran. Effectivement, si Trent est toujours la vers le 10, j'espere qu'on tentera de le prendre mais a part ca, du moment qu'on vise un poste qui en a besoin, vu qu'il y a pas de joueurs tres bandants, ca m'ira.
CL
Comptez pas sur nous pour trade down avec vous julm3.png
DimSet
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D'apres ce que j'en ai lu de toute facon, la draft cette annee est assez dense en bons joueurs mais y a pas de ouf (a part Luck et peut etre RGIII et Trent). Je prefere qu'on choppe Upshaw a la draft et qu'on essaie de prendre Colston en FA plutot que de prendre un WR qui sera peut etre pas mauvais mais qui nous fera pas passer un cran. Effectivement, si Trent est toujours la vers le 10, j'espere qu'on tentera de le prendre mais a part ca, du moment qu'on vise un poste qui en a besoin, vu qu'il y a pas de joueurs tres bandants, ca m'ira.


On a pas les moyens de prendre un top FA. Si on prend un WR libre ce sera au mieux du Meachem ou Reggie Wayne...Je préfère largement qu'on en draft un et qu'on le développe. Enfin apparemment on est partit pour avoir une bataille entre Ducasse et Hunter au training camp pour le poste de RT, et si c'est le cas tu peux même prendre Megatron ca changera rien vu que Sanchez passera son temps à courir pour sa vie et se faire étaler comme une crêpes.

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Comptez pas sur nous pour trade down avec vous julm3.png


Ce serait justement pour vous passez devant dks.jpg
corto-news
Thanks pour la mock draft!

J'aime pas trop Zeitler pour les Ravens mais je ne pense pas que David DeCastro soit encore disponible lorsque ce sera au tour des Ravens...

Je les vois bien sur Petez Konz par contre.

Sinon Burfict, quel idiot...
CL
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On a pas les moyens de prendre un top FA. Si on prend un WR libre ce sera au mieux du Meachem ou Reggie Wayne...Je préfère largement qu'on en draft un et qu'on le développe. Enfin apparemment on est partit pour avoir une bataille entre Ducasse et Hunter au training camp pour le poste de RT, et si c'est le cas tu peux même prendre Megatron ca changera rien vu que Sanchez passera son temps à courir pour sa vie et se faire étaler comme une crêpes.

Meachem est vraiment pas mal, et à mon avis, son départ des Saints ne peut qu'augmenter son rendement.

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Ce serait justement pour vous passez devant dks.jpg

Je me doute, mais si tu vises Trent s'il descend vers la 10ème, ça te laisse la possibilité de monter un échange qu'avec les Bills ou Kansas City, et je les vois pas lâcher leur spot alors qu'ils pourront encore à cette position choper un très bon OL ou DE/LB, surtout que juste après on a clairement annoncé qu'on voulait un DE... Bref, j'y crois pas trop à ce trade up.
DimSet
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Meachem est vraiment pas mal, et à mon avis, son départ des Saints ne peut qu'augmenter son rendement.


Je me doute, mais si tu vises Trent s'il descend vers la 10ème, ça te laisse la possibilité de monter un échange qu'avec les Bills ou Kansas City, et je les vois pas lâcher leur spot alors qu'ils pourront encore à cette position choper un très bon OL ou DE/LB, surtout que juste après on a clairement annoncé qu'on voulait un DE... Bref, j'y crois pas trop à ce trade up.


Meachem même Brees a pas réussi à le rendre bon...
Je pense plus à un trade avec les Panthers si on doit monter.
Dirty
Les Saints et leur "Bounty Program" edhelas2.gif

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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that the Saints are in danger of NFL discipline after maintaining a "bounty program" to take opposing offensive players out of games under former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.
Per Schefter, the NFL's investigation began in 2010, when Williams' defense began targeting Brett Favre and Kurt Warner. Between 22 and 27 Saints defenders were allegedly involved, as well as at least one defensive assistant. The league has reportedly reviewed 18,000 documents totaling more than 50,000 pages. New Orleans' discipline may lead to fines, suspensions, and draft-pick forfeiture. Williams is now defensive coordinator for the Rams.


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The Saints' 2009-2011 "bounty" program under ex-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is being characterized by the NFL as a "pay for performance" plan that awarded defenders $1,500 for "knockouts" and $1,000 for offensive players the opposing team was forced to cart off the field.
The Saints would often target a particular player, which reminds of Williams' comments to inflict "remember-me shots" on Brett Favre and Peyton Manning in 2009 and 2010. Players "regularly" put money into a cash pool and received payments when they successfully injured opponents. New Orleans is already without a 2012 first-round pick, so the NFL could begin taking away additional draft choices this year and a first-rounder in 2013. Expect discipline to be harsh. It will be discussed further at the league's meetings in March.


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According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the NFL has determined that MLB Jonathan Vilma was one of the primary culprits in the Saints' "pay for performance" bounty program that will result in NFL discipline.
"In the week of the NFC Championship Game," Schefter said on NFL Live Friday, "Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma put $10,000 in cash on a table and said 'this goes to the guy that knocks out Brett Favre.'" Those weren't Vilma's exact words, but they were similar, according to Schefter, and he's sure to be atop the league's target list for impending discipline. It's worth nothing that Vilma is due $5.4 million in 2012 and has been discussed as a possible salary cap casualty. We wouldn't expect him back with the Saints.


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Bon ok ça m'étonnerait qu'ils soient les seuls, en tout cas, ils se font fait choppés après une grosse enquête de la league.
De grosses sanctions sont attendues, ils ne parlent que ça sur NFL Network.
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Bon ok ça m'étonnerait qu'ils soient les seuls, en tout cas, ils se font fait choppés après une grosse enquête de la league.
De grosses sanctions sont attendues, ils ne parlent que ça sur NFL Network.

Je comprends pas ou est le probleme.
Dirty
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Je comprends pas ou est le probleme.

Bah le problème est que la NFL fait toute sa com' sur "protéger les joueurs etc" et là tu as la preuve qu'un DC organisait des cagnottes pour blesser des joueurs adverses intentionnellement (qui plus est des darlings genre Favre,Manning ou Warner).
NewYorkSup
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Bah le problème est que la NFL fait toute sa com' sur "protéger les joueurs etc" et là tu as la preuve qu'un DC organisait des cagnottes pour blesser des joueurs adverses intentionnellement (qui plus est des darlings genre Favre,Manning ou Warner).

Ouais enfin bon, les defenseurs ils sont pas payes pour cueillir les paqeurettes a la base, ils sont la pour mettre des hits. Alors ouais, la c'est un peu plus crude mais bon, je trouve vraiment rien de choquant.
Dirty
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Ouais enfin bon, les defenseurs ils sont pas payes pour cueillir les paqeurettes a la base, ils sont la pour mettre des hits. Alors ouais, la c'est un peu plus crude mais bon, je trouve vraiment rien de choquant.

Ça ne choque pas grand monde a vrai dire (chez les fans en tout cas) car j'imagine qu'on doit trouver a peu près la même chose partout mais bon, la NFL a fourré son nez la dedans,ont trouvé quelque chose donc là les Saints sont dans la merde car Goodell aime bien faire des exemples (d'après Schefter, ils risquent bien plus gros que les Pats pour le Spygate).
CL
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Bah le problème est que la NFL fait toute sa com' sur "protéger les joueurs etc" et là tu as la preuve qu'un DC organisait des cagnottes pour blesser des joueurs adverses intentionnellement (qui plus est des darlings genre Favre,Manning ou Warner).

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Dungy traces Manning's injury to Williams' D


In this photo from Oct. 22, 2006, Manning loses his helmet after getting hit in a game against the Redskins. (Getty Images)

Former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams apologized Friday evening for his part in the team's "pay for performance" bounty program that rewarded players for injuring opponents. In fact, one NFL source told CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman that linebacker Jonathan Vilma offered up $10,000 to any teammate who knocked then-Vikings quarterback Brett Favre out of the game.

Freeman says to expect more leaks in the coming hours and days.

(Apparently, Williams had a similar program when he was with the Redskins; a former player told the Washington Post that compensation ranged from "hundreds to thousands of dollars" with the biggest payout thought to be $8,000.")

One story we should expect to hear more about: Peyton Manning. He missed the 2011 season with a chronic neck injury, and he's probably taken his last snap for the Colts. Back in September, Tony Dungy, Manning's former coach who now serves as an NFL analyst for NBC, traced Manning's neck issues to a 2006 game.

The opponent? The Redskins. And the defensive coordinator? Yep, Gregg Williams.

Sports Illustrated's Peter King wrote about Dungy's remarks in his Week 1 Monday Morning Quarterback column:
Dungy had an excellent observation on our ... NFL special on NBC. He said Manning's neck history dates to Oct. 22, 2006, when his neck got wrenched and his helmet ripped off on a hit by two Washington defenders. We showed the highlight on our Saturday show, and Manning, after being hit and crumbling to the ground awkwardly, lay there for a second, and when he rose, he stretched his neck and shook his right arm for a second, as if trying to get the feeling back in it.

"Earlier in the game,'' Dungy told me, "I'm outraged that there was a flag for roughing-the-passer on Dwight Freeney for just grazing the quarterback's helmet. So I'm yelling at the ref [Scott Green], 'Where's the flag! Where's the flag!' And I don't yell much, but I did then. So I didn't notice Peyton calling timeout and being shaken up. Peyton came to the sideline and said to [backup] Jim Sorgi, 'Jim, start warming up.' As the timeout went on, he said to us, 'I can stay in, but we need to run the ball here.' ''
Former Colts president Bill Polian told King that Manning was fine at the end of the 2010 season and had "no recurrence of the neck problems that caused his first surgery after the 2009 season."

In January 2010, a week before the Saints faced the Colts in the Super Bowl, Williams (by then New Orleans' defensive coordinator) was asked about some controversial hits on Brett Favre in the NFC Championship Game.

“Here’s the deal," he said. "When you put too much of that type of worry on a warrior’s mind, he doesn’t play all out. If it happens, it happens. And the only thing you’d like for me to say is that if it happens you hope he doesn’t get back up and play again.”

Williams may have been sincere when he apologized Friday, but the remarks above makes them seem less geniune. More than that, you might think that the only reason Williams is sorry is because he got caught.

Au niveau sanctions, ça parle de leur retirer plusieurs picks à la draft cette année, voire de leur retirer leur franchise tag...
Varino
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Ouais enfin bon, les defenseurs ils sont pas payes pour cueillir les paqeurettes a la base, ils sont la pour mettre des hits. Alors ouais, la c'est un peu plus crude mais bon, je trouve vraiment rien de choquant.

Ils sont là pour tacler, là ce criminel en puissance récompense pour blesser les joueurs adverses. Scandaleux.
Dirty
Williams a fait son mea culpa

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“I want to express my sincere regret and apology to the NFL, Mr. Benson, and the New Orleans Saints fans for my participation in the ‘pay for performance’ program while I was with the Saints. It was a terrible mistake, and we knew it was wrong while we were doing it. Instead of getting caught up in it, I should have stopped it. I take full responsibility for my role. I am truly sorry. I have learned a hard lesson and I guarantee that I will never participate in or allow this kind of activity to happen again.”


Ben tiens... rolleyes.gif
Allez virez moi les 'Aints de la league pour une année ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
CL
Darren Sharper - qui a joué aux Saints entre 2009 et 2010 - qui nie tout alors que Williams s'est excusé et a tout avoué edhelas.gif
NewYorkSup
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Ils sont là pour tacler, là ce criminel en puissance récompense pour blesser les joueurs adverses. Scandaleux.

Vu la violence des defenseurs en NFL, c'est la meme. C'est pas une coincidence que t'as des concussions toutes les semaines.
CL
NFL Network wub.gif Si j'avais su, je m'y serais abonné plus tôt...
CL


Broncos vs Kansas Chiefs / Elway vs Montana '94 en ce moment sur NFL Network, une occasion pour moi de voir évoluer pour la première fois ces deux QB. Toute la journée, ils diffusent des classiques.
corto-news
C'est quand même ouf l'importance que prend le Bountygate aux USA...

A quoi peuvent s'attendre les Saints comme sanction à votre avis?
Dirty
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C'est quand même ouf l'importance que prend le Bountygate aux USA...

A quoi peuvent s'attendre les Saints comme sanction à votre avis?

Suspension pour Gregg Williams (vu qu'ils ont découvert qu'il faisait la même chose à Buffalo & Washington ph34r.gif ) même s'il est aux Rams désormais.
Pour les Saints, ça va certainement se payer en draft picks (leur 1er tour de 2013 sera certainement enlevé, plus d'autres)
DimSet
Et les Skins et Bills ils risquent rien ? C'est un peu degueu s'ils ont des preuves qu'il l'a fait la bas aussi...
CL
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Suspension pour Gregg Williams (vu qu'ils ont découvert qu'il faisait la même chose à Buffalo & Washington ph34r.gif ) même s'il est aux Rams désormais.
Pour les Saints, ça va certainement se payer en draft picks (leur 1er tour de 2013 sera certainement enlevé, plus d'autres)

Ouais, c'est chaud pour Williams. J'ai lu que ça pourrait aller jusqu'à une suspension à vie... Ca me fait encore plus marrer pour Sharper qui niait hier ou avant hier avoir eu connaissance de ce système edhelas.gif
Dirty
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Et les Skins et Bills ils risquent rien ? C'est un peu degueu s'ils ont des preuves qu'il l'a fait la bas aussi...

A priori rien,oui.

Et maintenant, Peter King dit que Sean Payton risque également une suspension popcorn.gif
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SI's Peter King believes Saints coach Sean Payton could be facing a suspension for his role in the team's "bounty" scandal.
King's revelation came in response to a question on Twitter, but one of the league's most plugged-in reporters, it's doubtful he pulled his answer out of a hat. By nearly every account, the Saints' program to incentivize injuring opponents was led by former DC Gregg Williams, but it appears neither Payton nor GM Mickey Loomis took any steps to stop it. It's looking more and more likely the Saints will be facing one of the stiffest punishments ever handed down by the league office.


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MadininaScal
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Et les Skins et Bills ils risquent rien ? C'est un peu degueu s'ils ont des preuves qu'il l'a fait la bas aussi...


Non les Skins risquent rien! mad.gif
CL
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Marshawn Lynch's contract is four years, totaling $31 million with roughly $18 million guaranteed.

Même pas besoin de tagger notre Beast Mode cool.gif
CL
Aucun franchise tag pour Seattle, idem pour Matt Flynn et Vincent Jackson.
Dirty
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Aucun franchise tag pour Seattle, idem pour Matt Flynn et Vincent Jackson.

Ah je croyais qu'ils allaient tagés Red Bryant.
Flynn aux Dolphins et VJax qui devrait rester a SD.

Free Agency commence le 13! popcorn.gif
Putain j'espère qu'Atlanta mettra le paquet sur Super Mario kratos77.gif
CL
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Oregon WR Huff arrested on DUI charges

Unfortunately for Chip Kelly and Oregon, traffic-related arrests are nothing new for Ducks. And thanks to wide receiver Josh Huff, they're going to remain nothing new for a little while longer.

The Eugene Register-Guard reported that Huff was arrested by Eugene police in the early hours of Saturday morning and charged with driving under the influence, as well as driving without a license and speeding.(jeanlucpicard.gif) A police spokeswoman said Huff was pulled over at 1:22 a.m. after being spotted speeding in Eugene. Huff was taken to Lane County Jail and released to an acquaintance after completing sobriety tests.

An Oregon spokesperson said the Ducks were aware of the incident but would have no further comment or disciplinary action at this time.

Huff, a rising junior, is the Ducks' leading returning receiver at the wideout position, having caught 31 passes a year ago for 431 yards. Huff has also returned kickoffs and had more than 200 yards rushing as a freshman in 2010. Though Kelly is -- as always -- somewhat spoiled for choice when it comes to offensive playmakers, the departures of LaMichael James, Darron Thomas and Lavasier Tuinei means that Huff should nonetheless play a much more prominent role in the offense in 2012 than he did a year ago; any absence via suspension would likely have a noticeable impact, despite the presence of De'Anthony Thomas.

Complicating matters is that Huff's arrest will do nothing for his program's continuing image as one rife with discipline issues and petty lawlessness. Even if the charges stick, Huff's punishment isn't likely to be too stiff--but Oregon's history might make it stiffer than it would be elsewhere, and that punishment in turn could have serious on-field ramifications. It's safe to say Kelly has had better weekends.

Ca me fera toujours halluciner que les mecs ne se rendent pas compte qu'ils hypothèquent leur futur avec ce genre de comportement, vu que la NCAA et les équipes NFL en tiennent compte.
Dirty
Peyton Manning sera FA demain.
J'avais beau être préparé mais je pensais jamais voir ça.
CL
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Peyton Manning sera FA demain.
J'avais beau être préparé mais je pensais jamais voir ça.

Ils auraient pu attendre quelques jour et lui filer son bonus pour service rendu, vu que ça ne compte pas pour le salary cap.
CL
Apparemment, Stephen Hill a brillé hier au Pro Day de Georgia Tech. C'est vraiment le receveur pour qui le combine et le pro day auront le plus amélioré sa valeur aux yeux des équipes NFL.

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Speedy Hill continues ascent at Georgia Tech's pro day


Stephen Hill catches all 12 passes, including a fingertip-grab, during Georgia Tech's pro day. (US Presswire)

ATLANTA -- Wide receiver Stephen Hill wanted to leave a specific impression with the NFL coaches who flocked to Georgia Tech's pro day.

"I just want to show them, because those are the guys who will be drafting me, that I can do great things other than just running deep routes," said the 6-4, 215-pounder, one of the stars of the NFL combine, where he posted a 4.36 "official" time in the 40-yard dash.

Mission accomplished. With two head coaches -- Atlanta's Mike Smith and Lovie Smith of the Bears -- and most NFL teams in attendance, Hill did his part to continue nudging his draft stock upward.

Running a variety of short and intermediate routes, Hill got in and out of his breaks fast and caught all 12 passes, including a fingertip-grab off the turf, form quarterback Eric Ward in Tuesday's workout. Vikings wide receiver coach George Stewart ran the receiver drills and ordered Hill through the route tree.

His eye-catching gold and silver Nike Vapor cleats only added to the spectacle. Scouts wanted to see something they didn't on film from Hill -- how he runs routes, if he repeats them with precision and how he tracks the ball over his shoulder and adjusts to poorly thrown passes. Hill was not a featured part of the run-first offense Tech operates.

Some scouts might be concerned with Hill's junior season, in which he dropped easily catchable balls but made the spectacular catches.

But scouts view him as a natural hands catcher. One observer credited him with five drops and 28 receptions last season.

Hill didn't run the 40-yard dash at pro day. He is 4.36 at the combine tied for the fastest showing. "I think I kind of showed enough," he said with a laugh when asked about not running at pro day. Hill has been working out under the watchful eye of former Falcons wide receiver Terance Mathis. "Basically it's just route-running, getting in and out of breaks, making sure I catch the ball with my eyes," he said. "Of course with my hands, but mostly with my eyes."
Dirty
C'est officiel

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Colts released QB Peyton Manning.
Indianapolis Star columnist Bob Kravitz calls the end of the Manning era a "perfect storm of imperfect circumstances," as the future Hall of Famer couldn't co-exist with Andrew Luck on a rebuilding roster. Manning's Colts career ends with a retired No. 18 jersey, one Super Bowl win, one Super Bowl loss, and several playoff disappoints in addition to an NFL-record four MVP awards, 11 Pro Bowl appearances, and the winningest decade in NFL history. Rivaling the legendary Johnny Unitas as the best QB not only in franchise history but also in league history, Manning ranks third all-time with 399 touchdown passes, 54,828 yards and 4,682 completions and fourth all-time in wins (141). In perhaps the most telling impact, Forbes estimates Manning helped increase the value of the franchise 366% by $233 million over the 1998 last-place value. Even with major health question marks, Manning will immediately become the most high-profile free agent in NFL history.


Donc maintenant c'est la guerre entre Miami, Washington, Seattle & Arizona pour ses services.

Les favoris sont
-Washington, on dit que Manning est l'option privilégiée et que le trade up pour Griffin est le plan B.
-Miami ont aussi Manning en prio et Flynn en plan B.

Arizona et surtout Seattle (qui serait prêt a signer Wayne également) sont les outsiders
DimSet
Je comprends les raisons qui font que, mais les Colts ca reste quand même des putains de gros fils de pute.
CL
Super ému Manning pendant la conférence de presse cry.gif

Bon même si j'aime pas ta gueule et que t'es à un sack d'être tétraplégique, ramène-toi à Seattle cool.gif
Dirty
Citation (DimSet @ 07/03/2012 19:55) *
Je comprends les raisons qui font que, mais les Colts ca reste quand même des putains de gros fils de pute.

Les Colts doivent dégraisser à mort juste pour signer leurs futurs rookies..en plus de Manning, Wayne,Clark, Addai voire Freeney vont probablement dégager aussi.
Et pressé de voir (si jamais le calendrier le permet) la 1ere fois ou Manning jouera les Colts, ça risque d'être pas mal popcorn.gif
CL
3ème Mock de Mel Kiper :

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Indianapolis Colts
Record: 2-14

* Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford No change here, even with the change to the future of Peyton Manning. Luck was going to land with the Colts; it was only a matter of whether he'd be serving an apprenticeship. I'm interested to see if he gets a deal done well before the draft so he can dive into the playbook. You know the scouting report. Arm strength, talent, size, smarts, leadership, intangibles -- it's all there. Luck is currently working hard out in Palo Alto to further refine his talents.


St. Louis Rams
Record: 2-14

* Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma St. Go ahead and put a big asterisk here, because I think this pick will be taken (most likely) by the Browns, with the Redskins also right there. The Browns can do a little more in terms of draft compensation all things being equal, but if Dan Snyder really wants his man, I'd never assume he'd come in second in a bidding war. Blackmon we know could fit with the Rams, even if they draft at No. 4 or No. 6, just based on how the picks could line up.


Minnesota Vikings
Record: 3-13

* Matt Kalil, OT, USC This is one I'm going to stick with. I've liked the pick since the first mock, and I don't see a reason to change. Minnesota needs an upgrade at left tackle, and Kalil is the rare one who could step into that position right away at the NFL level. There's a lot of talk about which quarterback will go where right now, but this pick is about keeping Christian Ponder upright for the Vikings. They won't know what they have unless they can block for him. And it's obvious this will help the running game, too.


Cleveland Browns
Record: 4-12

* Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor The assumption is they'll need to move up to No. 2 to get RG3, but I can't reflect that until anything is official. I don't think the combine changed anything in terms of where Griffin was likely to land, but it certainly didn't hurt him. He showed off athleticism that would have been impressive for the top wide receivers and running backs. Given his experience, leadership qualities and overall skill set as an accurate passer with a potent arm, I don't see it as much of a leap for Griffin to be a Week 1 starter in 2012.


Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Record: 5-11

* Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama This is one more I'm sticking with. Richardson could land here despite the presence of LaGarrette Blount, and depending on how his workouts go, I can see a team trading into this position to take him. Great running teams need more than one good back, and Richardson is superior to Blount. Further, if the Bucs are going with a best player available at this spot, Richardson fits the bill. I can also see the Bucs taking a close look at cornerbacks, which brings the next guy on the board into play, but I like Richardson here until I get a clear signal they're going another direction.


Washington Redskins
Record: 5-11

* Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU Go ahead and pop the asterisk here, too. We know the Redskins are actively looking at moving up, and they could also be in the race for Manning. Obviously, what the Skins could do in free agency for their offense is something I'm considering. If they were to get Manning, this pick could turn into an O-lineman. As for Claiborne, amidst all that's up in the air, he still makes a lot of sense. He's the top corner available, and is actually a better pure cover corner than Patrick Peterson, the No. 5 overall pick from last year. The kid can play, and did nothing to hurt his stock in Indy.

Jacksonville Jaguars
Record: 5-11

Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina Coples wasn't quite as dominant as I thought he'd be during the 2011 season, but the draft process has reinforced what a lot of front office folks believed, which is that he's clearly the top 4-3 defensive end in the draft. The Jags need pass-catchers, but if Blackmon isn't available, Coples fits. Jacksonville sacked opposing quarterbacks fewer than two times a game in 2011, and Coples is a great fit for the scheme. He has great length at 6-foot-6, and the size to hold up in the run game, complementing his pass-rush skills. Jacksonville is another team that simply needs to upgrade its talent level, so the Jaguars shouldn't reach based on need.

Miami Dolphins
Record: 6-10

Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa The Dolphins will be adding a quarterback -- Manning is obviously in play -- and Reiff puts the finishing touches on an improved offensive line. Reiff was exceptional this past season, and given how complete he is right now, stepping in immediately on the right side shouldn't be a problem. I've said that outside linebacker would make sense here, but Miami knows offensive line play will be a big part of their success in 2012, regardless of who takes the snaps. They went O-line in Round 1 last year with good results, and doubling down wouldn't hurt them.

Carolina Panthers
Record: 6-10

* Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis The Carolina defense couldn't stop the run last year and had to rotate a pair of rookies on the defensive interior. The offense could use a couple pieces, but they'll be able to score points. Carolina needs to find some stops. Poe was the story of the combine on the defensive side of the ball. He posted numbers for a big man we haven't seen since Haloti Ngata, and if his technique matches the physical traits, he can be a really good one. His size will get him pegged for a 3-4, but I like him better in a 4-3.

Buffalo Bills
Record: 6-10

Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina Ingram's stock is on the rise, and the Bills need a pass-rusher. He's billed as a defensive end based on the system at South Carolina, but Buffalo can use him in their personnel groupings and not limit what he does best. He's a pass-rusher, but isn't a guy that becomes a liability against the run. I think there is still growth in Ingram's game, as he learns to better disengage from blocks. With Steve Johnson back in the fold, the Bills should put their focus on defense early.

Kansas City Chiefs
Record: 7-9

* Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College Kuechly came to Indy with concerns about his size. But he weighed in at over 240 pounds, easing some of those concerns, and then shined in workouts, proving the added bulk won't slow him down; a classic case where a guy answers the big questions and solidifies his stock. Romeo Crennel needs linebackers with great instincts who can be physical in the run game, make stops and also get into the backfield when asked. Kuechly is simply a machine, a prototype for what you want in an interior linebacker. I can see the Chiefs looking for a nose tackle, so if Poe is around, that pick makes sense as well.

Seattle Seahawks
Record: 7-9

Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
There's no question that Tannehill's stock was helped when a couple of other QBs opted to stay in college, but his growth curve has been exceptional, and he's a guy you draft with a very high ceiling in mind. Good arm, the athleticism you'd expect from a former wide receiver and with very good instincts for the position, some team will take him in the upper half of Round 1. We know Seattle isn't set on a long-term solution at QB, and Tannehill makes sense as a guy that gets a full year of developmental time.

Arizona Cardinals
Record: 8-8

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame Offensive line would be the more obvious pick here, but I want to see what the Cardinals do in free agency first. Floyd would be a great complement to Larry Fitzgerald in that offense, and give the Cardinals an enviable pair of guys that can work underneath, go deep and also post up smaller defensive backs in the red zone. Outside of the offensive line, Floyd is as much as you could do to help a quarterback.

Dallas Cowboys
Record: 8-8

Mark Barron, S, Alabama We all know the story. Dallas was a mess defending the pass in 2011, and it might look for help both in free agency and here. Barron's a perfect fit for the Cowboys. He's the best safety in the draft, and the Cowboys can't go wrong with either the top safety or the top cornerback here. He didn't work out in Indianapolis, coming off double hernia surgery, but it's not a lingering concern.

Philadelphia Eagles
Record: 8-8

* Michael Brockers, DT, LSU No team was softer up the middle than Philly in 2011, and in Brockers the Eagles get a big, active player who can both take up blocks and penetrate. He weighed in at 322 pounds at the NFL combine, heavier than I've ever had him listed, but I don't see him as a prototype 3-4 nose tackle. My guess is he'll play a little lighter once he gets into camp, and the Eagles will benefit, particularly against the run. This is like a baseball team -- they need to build out the middle of the field on defense. If Kuechly is here, that makes sense as well.

New York Jets
Record: 8-8

Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama Rex Ryan needs a guy that can get to the quarterback on his own, meaning without a blitz package, and Upshaw is that kind of player. He plays with a high motor, sheds blocks well with quickness and violent hands and makes plenty of sense in Ryan's system. He's also bigger than he was listed at Alabama. The Jets could also grab Barron if he's on the board, or get a defensive lineman if they see a fit.

Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland)
Record: 8-8

* Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama Johnathan Joseph left a void last year when he landed in Houston as a free agent, and Kirkpatrick will fill the void. This is a big, physical corner who doesn't give up much in coverage given his size (nearly 6-3), which makes him particularly good inside the red zone. He's also tough against the run. I have the Bengals as a team who could trade up for Richardson if he starts to fall on the board, but if they don't, Kirkpatrick offers immediate help.

San Diego Chargers
Record: 8-8

Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois The book on Mercilus is he's an athletic, long-armed pass-rush specialist who simply dominated as a senior. The track record over a few seasons isn't there, but he could be a steal if what we saw in 2011 is what Mercilus truly is. The Chargers need help on the offensive line, but I think free agency will help us get a clearer picture. Mercilus is a great value here, but we'll see how the needs shift.

Chicago Bears
Record: 8-8

Mike Adams, OT, Ohio St. It looks like the Bears will be really aggressive in targeting wide receivers in free agency, and the offensive line still has to be better. Mike Tice knows as well as anybody that Jay Cutler can be successful in the passing game first if he's not getting hit on every play. Adams wasn't a star in terms of testing, but he's really good in pass protection, and the Bears could use more of that trait along the line. He moves his feet and doesn't get beat inside, but he has the length and technique to protect the edge.

Tennessee Titans
Record: 9-7

* David DeCastro, OG, Stanford The Titans also need pass-rush help, but if things break this way, DeCastro represents tremendous value, and that offensive line could use the help after a year where the running game totally fell apart. DeCastro is the kind of player you can draft who won't get big headlines, but will pay immediate dividends because they can plug him in Week 1. Obviously, if a pass-rusher they like falls to No. 20, they could go that direction.

Cincinnati Bengals
Record: 9-7

Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia I have guard as one of the top needs for the Bengals, and if they don't get DeCastro at this spot, Glenn isn't much of a drop. Cincinnati will have added help in the run game next year, but it also needs to get better up front. Glenn is a guy who has also spent time at tackle, and could be moved there in a pinch, but he dominates on the inside and is surprisingly quick given his huge frame. Another good piece in an offense primed to get better.

Cleveland Browns (from Atlanta)
Record: 4-12

Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska This is a bit of a gut call for me. I'm not sure exactly how teams will use David, but the guy can flat-out play. The question on David was size, but he checked in at 233 pounds last week, and didn't appear to lose a step in the workout phase, which made me rethink my second-round grade. David played smaller at Nebraska, but you won't find a guy that simply flew all over the field the way David did anywhere in the draft. Cleveland needs help in several spots, but David will be productive.

Detroit Lions
Record: 10-6

* Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina Detroit could get into the mix for a cornerback during free agency -- Cortland Finnegan is a name that has come up often -- but I'd still be shocked if the Lions go two rounds without adding a corner. They have plenty of talent up front, and they need to turn their pass rush into more interceptions. Gilmore is a bigger corner, a guy that can handle big wide receivers, but he also doesn't lose much in terms of quickness. I can also see the Lions going O-line or linebacker here, but corner is a big need.

Pittsburgh Steelers
Record: 12-4

Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama As part of their purge to get in good standing with the salary cap, the Steelers had to cut veteran James Farrior. While they have some young talent at linebacker, given the way their system works, I think they'll want to find Dick LeBeau another player that can help early. Hightower was an exceptional young player for Bama before he lost a year with an ACL injury, but he recovered this year and might have plenty of growth left. The Steelers have new needs, and Hightower fills one.

Denver Broncos
Record: 8-8

* Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St. Denver has the pass rush on the edge but must add more depth on the inside, because despite the flashes this defense had last year, overall the Broncos profile as a team that has some holes on that side of the field. Cox is an active guy, a penetrator who will be a great fit in the Denver system, and can help them get some inside push. Cornerback is also a concern, but we'll know more after free agency. If Tannehill is still on the board at this stage, it could make for a pretty interesting draft night.

Houston Texans
Record: 10-6

* Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor When the Texans lost Andre Johnson last year, it completely eliminated their ability to stretch the field. That's a problem, because this is a system that thrives on regular use of play-action packages, and it loses a lot of juice if there's nobody around to challenge defenses deep. Wright can do that. His performance in Indy wasn't his best, but his tape shines -- you see a guy that plays fast in pads and beats people deep. His hands are also fine.

New England Patriots (from Saints)
Record: 13-3

Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut I had Reyes to the Patriots with their other first-round pick in a previous mock, and he sticks, albeit a little higher, this time around. The Patriots know they have to get better along the defensive front, and that could come via free agency (Mario Williams?). Still, I'd be surprised if they don't target it in the draft, even though Bill Belichick never fails to make moves and surprise during the draft. Reyes provides an active run-stuffer up front, a guy that can eat up blocks and free up rushers.

Green Bay Packers
Record: 15-1

* Nick Perry, LB, USC The Packers need help in the secondary, but a lot of that starts with the pass rush. It's not an exaggeration to say the Packers' pass rush fell off a cliff towards the end of last season. In Perry, you get a guy who played with his hand on the ground at USC, but should be able to stand up for the Packers and provide the complement they need. And hey, the last time the Packers looked for pass-rush help out of USC it worked out just fine.

Baltimore Ravens
Record: 12-4

Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin Ray Lewis coming back makes me like this pick more, so I'm sticking with it. As I've said before, Matt Birk will need a replacement at center, and Konz is the best one in the draft. He's like a good quarterback out there, able to call the defensive looks, and will be a big help to Joe Flacco. The Ravens were a mess up front for portions of 2011 and will need to add help there.

San Francisco 49ers
Record: 13-3

* Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech Hill set Indy ablaze, going sub-4.4 in the 40 while measuring 6-foot-4. San Francisco, meet the deep threat you've been looking for. It's no secret the 49ers need more out of their wide receivers, and Hill brings a new aspect to the table, with elite size and track speed to stretch defenses both for himself, and to open up things underneath. He'll need an adjustment period as he gets used to a more conventional offense, but some team is going to fall in love with the measurables.

New England Patriots
Record: 13-3

Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama There's no question Jenkins comes with baggage, but without it you're talking about a player in the conversation 20 spots higher on the board. If you like your locker room and feel like you can keep him on track, this is the kind of guy you take a risk on at a big need position. I still think corner is one for the Patriots, who could obviously look at pass-rush help here. But put a talent like Jenkins in a culture like New England's, and you could have a steal.

New York Giants
Record: 9-7

Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford The Super Bowl was great for the party, but the Giants took a hit on the personnel side, where they lost a pair of tight ends to injury. Fleener has overtaken Dwayne Allen of Clemson as the top tight end on my board, and the Giants need one. He has great hands, will run a lot better than people think and knows how to work in a pro-style system, lined up on the line of scrimmage. He's a great red zone target. The Giants also need offensive line help, or could target a linebacker here, but Fleener makes a lot of sense.
DimSet
J'ai hate que la FA et la draft arrive. Je suis tout excité même si je la sens pas du totu du coté de NY. Il y a clairement de faire quelque chose de bien mais j'ai pas du tout confiance en notre duo GM/coach pour faire ce qu'il faut. Je nous sens trop impatient et avec pas assez de recul.
Déjà qu'on ait aps coupé des mecs comme Smith ou Hunter ca me dépasse, alors avec en plus toutes les déclarations publiques (même si ca veut pas dire grand choses) ca rassure pas sad.gif
Varino
Carroll a dit texto qu'on allait chercher à renforcer le groupe DL-LB pour rusher le passeur, et les mecs continuent de nous envoyer Tannehill... je comprends pas
Ok il ne faut rien prendre au sérieux à cette période de l'année mais bon là il se base sur rien quoi, surtout que visiblement (je prend pas note) Carroll n'avait jamais menti les autres années sur les intentions.
CL
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C'est mal détouré ©

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Seahawks release CB Marcus Trufant.

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Varino
La manning face de compet choisie pour le montage neokill@h.gif
CL
Jake Locker qui est au pro-day de UW pour lancer à ses anciens coéquipiers wub.gif
CL
4.45 pour Polk au Pro Day smoke2.gif

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According to Chris Polk, it was an electronic time of 4.49 seconds. One team had him at 4.48 seconds.


Ca dépend des sources quoi mais en dessous de 4.50.
CL
Manning en visite à Denver. Tebow edhelas.gif :NYS:
Dirty
Je sens bien Manning aux Cardinals moi.
Manning to Fitzgerald ohmy.gif

@ Varino : on a essayé Lofa Tatupu cette semaine ph34r.gif
Ça sent le départ de Lofton sad.gif
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