Citation (Chicago Bullshit @ 02/02/2013 20:44) 
Sissoko out 
Sinon les joueurs comme Mollo qui tirent les coups de pieds arrêtés comme CR ne jouaient pas au foot avant 2006?
Version complète : [Foot] Live
Forum de Culture PSG > Les forums du Haut : L'actualité du PSG et du football > Le football en général
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Sinon les joueurs comme Mollo qui tirent les coups de pieds arrêtés comme CR ne jouaient pas au foot avant 2006?
Le corner de Sankharé . On reconnait l'école parisienne.
. On reconnait l'école parisienne.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL SEYDOU 
L'enculé d'arbitre qui siffle la mi temps alors que Evian partait en 3 Vs 2 
Le batard d'arbitre qui annihile un 3 vs 2 pour Evian
Citation (DonTornado @ 02/02/2013 20:47)
L'enculé d'arbitre qui siffle la mi temps alors que Evian partait en 3 Vs 2
Citation (DelSpooner @ 02/02/2013 20:47)
Le batard d'arbitre qui annihile un 3 vs 2 pour Bastia
WHOOOOO?
Citation (BlaiseMan @ 02/02/2013 20:48)
WHOOOOO?
J'ai édité
Citation (BlaiseMan @ 02/02/2013 20:48)
WHOOOOO?
Ouais une équipe de merde quoi
Aie Samassa 
Citation (DonTornado @ 02/02/2013 20:49)
Ouais une équipe de merde quoi
On est d'accord. D'ailleurs je me concentre sur les blocs défensifs des équipes là, c'est impossible de marquer sérieux. Je veux bien que la priorité soit de ne pas encaisser de buts mais c'est abusé.
Citation (BlaiseMan @ 02/02/2013 20:52)
On est d'accord. D'ailleurs je me concentre sur les blocs défensifs des équipes là, c'est impossible de marquer sérieux. Je veux bien que la priorité soit de ne pas encaisser de buts mais c'est abusé.La Ligue 1 mec, la Ligue 1...
Allez TROYES !!!!
Wesh si tu vous traînez jusqu’à ce que les sudafs viennent se replacer, c'est plus une contre attaque.
Explique moi comment Mandela a "renversé le pouvoir en place grâce au sport" Marcel
Keita vs Letsholonyane
Keita vs Letsholonyane
2eme but Niçois 
Il a pris cher Mendy
Le CSC du brestois
Citation (DelSpooner @ 02/02/2013 21:04)
Le CSC du brestois
L'équipe.fr qui met 1-1 BUT DE FERRADJ
Allez tous vous faire enculer
Mollo ce mongolien 
Citation (KaRiMZiANiSiSiLaFaMiLLe93 @ 02/02/2013 21:06)
Allez tous vous faire enculer
Papin qui défonce Mollo
Papin
FAIS ENTRER SERERO BATARD DE MERDE
Citation (Vaudou @ 02/02/2013 21:09)
Papin
Il est un peu bêbête mais au moins il est cash
- " Mollo très bonne recrue n'est ce pas Jean Pierre "
- " Non non c'est un con, il en fait des tonnes, ne dégage aucune sérénité, j'aime pas "
Ce qu'Henri met à Rudy Matter ce soir
Ouuuuh la frappe de Saivet 
Citation (DelSpooner @ 02/02/2013 21:21)
Ouuuuh la frappe de Saivet
Merci Gouffran de t'être barré ! Henri va enfin donner pleine mesure puis rejoindre les A
But Sochaux 
Ruffier
But du jeune Lilllois, passe décisive de Payet
2-0 Bdx Obraniak, gros travail de Tremoulinas.
Ruffier
But du jeune Lilllois, passe décisive de Payet
2-0 Bdx Obraniak, gros travail de Tremoulinas.
La descente aux enfers de VA n'empêche
Egalisation Lille, encore un jeune qui marque, ça fait pas mal cette saison 
Bordeaux marque 2 buts dans un seul match
Citation (dready @ 02/02/2013 21:31)
Egalisation Lille, encore un jeune qui marque, ça fait pas mal cette saison
Une Ligue 1 dynamique ©
Lemoine but
La reprise de Lemoine
Je comprenais pas pourquoi je ratais tous les buts et que le multiplex fonctionnait pas. J'étais sur beIN2 
Citation (Miles @ 02/02/2013 21:35)
Je comprenais pas pourquoi je ratais tous les buts et que le multiplex fonctionnait pas. J'étais sur beIN2
Mec t'es une légende
Roudet pour son craquage annuel
Roudet le débile
Ahaha le débile Roudet
Toujours cette impression étrange d'être ton tween posteur
Citation (DelSpooner @ 02/02/2013 21:37)
Roudet le débile
Toujours cette impression étrange d'être ton tween posteur
Pouplin > Aubame
Citation (DonTornado @ 02/02/2013 21:38)
Ahaha le débile Roudet
Toujours cette impression étrange d'être ton tween posteur
Toujours cette impression étrange d'être ton tween posteur
Citation (DelSpooner @ 02/02/2013 21:38)
Pouplin > Aubame
Il frappe toujours au même endroit putain
Papin au moins il a pas peur de contredire ses collègues.
On reconnait pas trop Parisian et Panenka.
Mais c'est un peu pareil Delspooner et Don Graphico.
Mais c'est un peu pareil Delspooner et Don Graphico.
Citation (Madi$kwale @ 02/02/2013 21:38)
Il frappe toujours au même endroit putain
Titi Henry aussi mais bon il avait le talent en plus ça aide
Citation (DonTornado @ 02/02/2013 21:38)
Toujours cette impression étrange d'être ton tween posteur
Citation (JeromeTouboulArnaudHermant @ 02/02/2013 21:39)
On reconnait pas trop Parisian et Panenka.
Mais c'est un peu pareil Delspooner et Don Graphico.
Mais c'est un peu pareil Delspooner et Don Graphico.
C'est pas la première fois en plus, assez hallucinant dans les live
Citation (Teichi @ 02/02/2013 21:40)
edit : j'espère que "tween" veut pas dire un truc dégueulasse en anglais par contre
Citation (DonTornado @ 02/02/2013 21:38)
Toujours cette impression étrange d'être ton tween posteur
lolwut
"Ca me parait cuit pour Brest" "oui, comme les carottes"
Citation (DonTornado @ 02/02/2013 21:41)
edit : j'espère que "tween" veut pas dire un truc dégueulasse en anglais par contre
C'est la période avant les teens
Citation (DonTornado @ 02/02/2013 21:41)
C'est pas la première fois en plus, assez hallucinant dans les live
edit : j'espère que "tween" veut pas dire un truc dégueulasse en anglais par contre
edit : j'espère que "tween" veut pas dire un truc dégueulasse en anglais par contre
C'est plutôt twin
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